Comment by esskay
1 day ago
A lot of it came from the rather harmful "php a fractal of bad design" article that used to get posted everywhere despite being highly inaccurate and out of date. Thankfully its fairly rare to see someone daft enough to still try using it in a discussion. PHP's come a very long way since then.
What is inaccurate about it? Maybe it is out of date now, but when I first read it about a decade ago, when I did a fair amount of PHP development, I had personally encountered most of the issues mentioned in there.
I've heard that PHP has improved a lot since then, but I don't see how you could really fix all the inconsistencies, global state, and "oddities" without a lot of breaking changes and really making it into a different language.
The essay was largely accurate when it was written in 2012. We are living in the grim dark far future of the year 2026, and PHP has now addressed many of the issues it raised.
PHP should learn from JS where you have to abandon frameworks every two years.
> What is inaccurate about it?
It's been debunked so many times over the years, I'm afraid I don't have the energy or desire to do it again when it's really not needed if you're far out of the php ecosystem that it really won't make a difference. Suffice to say the PHP it is talking about is nothing at all like modern PHP.
Sure PHP has improved since that was written, but I'm pretty sure it was accurate when it was written. And I suspect that it was probably a contributing factor in some of PHP's improvements since then.