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Comment by JCTheDenthog

1 day ago

They're permanent residency, so other than voting rights effectively the same thing.

Lots of other differences.

1. Citizens have a right to enter at ports of entry, can refuse to hand over social media accounts, etc. Greencard holders are still at the discretion of border officials.

2. Citizens can wander the world and live abroad for however long they fancy and always be allowed to return to their country of citizenship when things go awry. Greencard holders can't do that.

3. Citizens get consular protection, greencard holders don't.

I suggest you go and try out an immigration system. You have no idea.

  • I lived in central Europe for two years. Had to wait in line for 20 hours halfway through my time there to renew my visa, otherwise it wasn't much of an issue.

    • Ok so you know what a visa is then.

      So on your visa if you did anything bad, what would happen? Get your visa taken?

      Here's one big difference. Do something bad, your green card might be taken. When you're a citizen? Nothing happens

      And that's just one example...

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Well, based on the state your in you can still vote citizenship or not.

No, you're wrong. You can lose their Green Card.

If you leave the country for more than 6 months, you need to seek prior approval, and you definitely can lose it. I was on Green Card and when I crossed the border, I was questioned by the customs officer as to why I didn't get my citizenship yet because it was 15 years I was on GC and the point of the GC wasn't to be literally permanent. I quickly got my citizenship after that just in case the same thing happened again.

If you get arrested for a major crime, you can lose your GC but you can only lose your citizenship if you lied or committed fraud at the time of your application, or if you committed treason against the government.

  • >No, you're wrong. You can lose their Green Card.

    Didn't know that.

    >If you leave the country for more than 6 months, you need to seek prior approval, and you definitely can lose it.

    Doesn't seem unreasonable to me.

    >If you get arrested for a major crime, you can lose your GC but you can only lose your citizenship if you lied or committed fraud at the time of your application, or if you committed treason against the government.

    That sounds eminently reasonable to me.

    • It doesn't matter that it sounds reasonable to you.

      The point wasn't that these difference are unreasonable.

      It was that they are substantial, and absolutely exist, making your "green card is pretty much the same as citizenship" statement false.

      >Didn't know that.

      We know. This is why we're telling you these things.

      Now you know.

      And there's much more for you to find out.