Comment by array_key_first

19 hours ago

No? If you're born in the US you have US citizenship, you're American. You don't just magically get citizenship for your parents home country, at least not for most countries.

You can automatically be a citizen through descent of most countries in Europe and Asia, and everywhere in North America.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_sanguinis#Jus_sanguinis_st...

  • It’s not automatic, it requires applying and at times can take years of proving in terms of paperwork, that is by definition not automatic. I have personal experience with the Greek, German, and Italian systems, prepare your self for 1-2 years to gain it even if you have rights to it.

    • In some countries it is automatic in others it is not.

      Say one of your parents is a citizen of some other country.

      If they're Canadian, you're a Canadian citizen. Period. The process is to get your documents that prove it. You don't apply for citizenship, you apply for proof.

      In many European countries you are not a citizen. The process is to become one by descent. You apply for citizenship.

      Very different.

Also, in some cases, you may automatically lose your original nationality if you seek an additional one (Spain comes to mind; though in their case you'd need to manually request not to lose your nationality to keep it within a certain time period, IIRC).

    > You don't just magically get citizenship for your parents home country, at least not for most countries.

Are there any countries where this is not true? I struggle to think of any, especially amoung highly-developed democratic nations. (There might be a couple of weirdo dictatorships that do not allow it.) It seems this would be necessary to prevent statelessness. For example, if your parents are living in the Netherlands as foreigners, children born there are not entitled to automatic Dutch citizenship. As a result, they will obtain citizenship through their parents (in a foreign nation).

  • Quite a few countries do not allow dual citizenship. So a person who was born in the US and is therefore US citizen at birth will not be allowed to have that country's citizenship until they revoke the US one.

    China and Singapore are some of the more prominent examples.

    • Both of your examples are wrong.

      China considers it a "nationality conflict," the child is issued a Travel Document and treated as a citizen domestically, they can still be registered on hukou and get ID card. Apparently they used to unofficially force you to decide as an adult, but stopped a few years ago and now issue the Travel Document for life.

      edit to add -- that assumes the parent is not a unconditional green card holder, which is the scenario here.

      Singapore allows dual citizenship until 21. Which is not necessarily a good thing, as if you do not do their national service you will effectively get banned from ever going there even if you renounce it later.

      Japan and Korea both allow it forever from birth in practice, but the latter also has some complexities regarding the military (either renounce before a certain age or you have some restrictions returning until past a certain age).

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The whole concept of getting citizenship where you're born is mostly an American concept. Though, if you do get born in a place where you get citizenship based on location alone, your parents will probably need to figure out a lot of paperwork to sort things out.

  • Most of North America and South America operates under Jus sanguinis -- you get citizenship for being born in country, even if your parents are not citizens.