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Comment by slg

18 hours ago

These hypotheticals tend to accidentally reveal a disturbing worldview in the way they treat immigration as a natural phenomenon rather than people with agency of their own. It's dehumanizing.

For example, where does that 99,999,999th person sleep on the night they arrive in this country? What is their immediate plan? How and why did they come here? Your hypothetical has them almost emerging from the ether as an inherent problem rather than a person making an active decision to move to somewhere they think they will have a better life. If we stop providing them a better life, they'll stop coming. But the primary path to doing that is making life worse for everyone already here and none of us should want that.

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  • You know what, I made a mistake in engaging. The way you moved the goal posts from open immigration to the obligation to provide social services to immigrants above and beyond any services provided to citizens and they way you're combining the concepts of immigrants and refugees tells me it isn't worth having this conversation with you.

    • > The way you moved the goal posts

      There's no goalposts moving here mate, the comment covers the same talking point from my initial comment: too much legal migration burdens social services making people want to cap or stop legal migration too, not just illegal. Reading is not your strong point I take it if you couldn't understand that. Or you're malicious.

      >hey way you're combining the concepts of immigrants and refugees

      Again, it's a follow up on my previous comment explaining why people want a cap on legal migrants not just illegal. Too much migrants and too much refugees is also a bad thing, since both groups get access to social services creating a burden for the locals.

      No, no, it is MY mistake for indulging people like you who argue in bad faith or can't read through a point of view making unfounded accusations about things you didn't say the moment they see they can't win with arguments so they need to attack you personally by first trying to undermine your credibility accusing you of "moving the goalpost".

  • If you live in a Red State, it is highly like that my Blue State money pays for your health care, highways, narcan, and a myriad of other transfers.

    Like, I feel for you and your situation, but I just don't think it's sustainable for Blue States to keep being patsies by letting the Red States control what happens with Blue State money.

    • Mate, I live in Europe like my comment says. And no need to wave the flag, people can tell you're from a blue state since you couldn't extract that from reading my comment. Minnesota learing center alumni by any chance?