Comment by collingreen

17 hours ago

What a bunch of misleading and gross noise.

Nobody above said people who disagree with them are irrational.

Nobody said immigration should happen faster than anyone can assimilate.

They said preventing people from applying for green cards while on an existing visa will make it much much harder to immigrate legally.

If you think immigrants need more time to assimilate so they don't change your culture but you still think immigration is good then it seems like you'd be against this change. On the other hand if you want to limit immigration to just the wealthy this sounds like exactly the matching policy.

Also, Trump winning the naturalized citizen vote doesn't mean naturalized citizens all think the same way. Even if they all did think the US was perfect and their country of origin was garbage that STILL doesn't mean they think other people from their country are bad, obviously. Being at risk from your government or thinking your government needs to change doesn't imply you think other citizens from your culture are bad.

> you think immigrants need more time to assimilate so they don't change your culture but you still think immigration is good then it seems like you'd be against this change.

It reduces the number of immigrants, which facilitates assimilation and reduces the capacity of immigrants to change american culture.

> Also, Trump winning the naturalized citizen vote doesn't mean naturalized citizens all think the same way.

The point is that it’s not just “immigrant” versus “anti-immigrant,” because immigrants themselves are split in views.

> Being at risk from your government or thinking your government needs to change doesn't imply you think other citizens from your culture are bad.

There’s an assumption baked into your statement: that the government they left is unrelated to the “culture.” That’s hotly debated.

My parents grew up in Bangladesh, and both of them believe that Bangladesh is the way it is because of our culture. Their views on immigration thus are nuanced. They think we should treat immigrants well, obviously. But they are pretty alarmed by Little Bangladesh and the ethnic enclaves that exist now, which didn’t really exist in the 1980s when we came here.