Comment by timr
15 hours ago
> Repeatedly, he has refused to answer his own question while insisting that he has. It's pretty wild.
The only question I have asked is for you to make an affirmative argument.
15 hours ago
> Repeatedly, he has refused to answer his own question while insisting that he has. It's pretty wild.
The only question I have asked is for you to make an affirmative argument.
> The only question I have asked is for you to make an affirmative argument.
You asked us to consider the reasons why conservatives vote for politicians with platforms built on the hatred of immigrants, besides hatred of immigrants. Remember?
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48253510
> You asked us to consider the reasons why conservatives vote for politicians with platforms built on the hatred of immigrants, besides hatred of immigrants. Remember?
No, that is literally not what the comment said. I'm actually sort of amazed that you can get that from what I wrote, and treat is as some kind of "gotcha", when it's the top of this thread, and literally the same message I've been repeating throughout:
> Or maybe, when you say that the platform is “built upon hatred”, that’s just your opinion, and the other side actually has reasons that you haven’t bothered to consider?
> I don’t like this policy, but engaging in exaggerated rhetoric, then calling the other side liars because they disagree with your rhetoric, is everything that is wrong with political debate in the US right now.
To wit: stop calling people liars. Make an argument instead.
The fact that the current US administration lies is indisputable. I'm not calling them liars because they "disagree with [my] rhetoric" but because they have been shown to have repeatedly lied. Saying that Trump is a liar is not "calling names" but reminding of a well-known fact. But ok, I'll indulge your bad-faith argument:
1. The administration has claimed to oppose only illegal immigration in order to encourage legal immigration. [0]
2. The administration has consistently lied about and demonized immigrants who came legally. [1]
3. Recent policies have made legal immigration more difficult. [2]
4. The effect of these policies will be to reduce legal immigration, contradicting the administration's earlier stated goals. [3]
5. The administration has repeatedly expressed white nationalist sentiment. [4]
[0] https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/05/trump-state-of-the...
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHycpIhnFcU
[2] https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/23/us/politics/trump-legal-i...
[3] https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2026/01/20/trump...
[4] https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/2026/01/stephen-miller-...
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