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Comment by adev_

8 hours ago

> HSP is one special visa amongst many, and they're not all so easy.

Japan has a selective immigration system where the profiles JP gov considers as "necessary" are made easy to immigrate, and the others not so much.

One can disagree with the method, but at least it is consistent.

Near that, half of the American tech (and associated GDP) is constructed highly qualified immigrated engineers on H1B visas, and still the US gov openly shit on them.

> US system to apoplexy (i.e. language fluency requirements)

JP mainly just put some Japanese language level requirement on the HSP visas related to roles with communication. That honestly does not shock me.

We agree that the Japanese system is far more consistent. I think it's better!

But let's not kid ourselves: if the US instituted a CEFR B2 language requirement [1] for anyone on an H1B visa to gain residency, it would be an absolute shitshow.

[1] This is the new Japanese language requirement.

  • Assuming English is the language, CEFR B2 is roughly 75 in TOEFL, such a low standard that community colleges would think twice before admitting such internationals students. In reality H1B tech workers easily blows 100+.

  • No, it would not be a shitshow. That's just your assumption.

    Do you think I could not pass that test?

    • > Do you think I could not pass that test?

      Well, I don't know you, but you've missed the point entirely so...

      It would be a shitshow because of the politics of it. I am certain there would be plenty of people who could pass, and some who can't.

      Also, it's obviously my assumption.

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  • For the US to institute a language standard, we'd first have to agree on an official language at the federal level.

    • There's a (fairly basic but extant) English language requirement for naturalization, so it doesn't seem inconceivable that could be applied to a visa.

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