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Comment by WarmWash

3 hours ago

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The biggest problem we face in the west is thinking our institutions are somehow different. Be critical of the product all you want, but don't pretend the exact same thing isn't happening here.

  • I don't subscribe to conspiracy much.

    The courts here regularly shoot down government transgressions, and social media regularly gets it wrong (clicks are god, not facts). Also lets no pretend that it isn't in the agencies interest to perpetuate the idea that they are everywhere all the time watching everything.

    Trump has been throwing a hissy fit over the court rulings. Xi doesn't ever do that because there are no courts that can rule against him.

    It's only "the exact same thing" if you drink the kool aid all day.

    • > throwing a hissy fit over the court rulings

      He'll of course executively order those pesky things out of existence in time, or find other workarounds as he currently is.

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Worst thing China can do is steal your IP if you’re not a Chinese national and have no ties to China. Worst thing US can do is use your chat history in court against you. Still safer to use Chinese servers if local is not an option for the task.

  • >Worst thing China can do is steal your IP if you’re not a Chinese national and have no ties to China

    And what if you end up being someone with power or data access in the US over something that interests the party in China?

    The Chinese are way ahead of you, so don't think it's a non-issue. The russians played the same game during the cold war. Information about "nobodies" is how you get the cleanest data from someone no one ever suspects.

You are likely being downvoted for pretending like this is a China specific problem. The only difference in the US is the government and businesses not admitting to it.

Plus I think its funny you complain about China stealing things when all the big AI models are based on massive troves of stolen information and IP.

Quick reminder that US data protection doesn't apply to non US customers. Companies are not even allowed to disclose their spying.