Presidents through out American history has believed various forms of genocide and slavery were applicable practices to modern problems; hell the current president thinks variously incredulous things.
So you know, you might want to adjust your measuring stick before you critique people.
Both things can be true at the same time, so shutting down the critique (possibly because it is critiquing something you like??) just because another critique can be made is not a good counter argument
Lets not forget the hideous acts that this church has commited against young men and children in america. This would the last place I'd accept leadership advise from.
This message is not focused on u.s or its presidents. Its focused on leadership world wide.
The people best suited to give advice on how AI should be used, distributed, and controlled are probably those disconnected from the profit structure of AI.
> Presidents through out American history has believed various forms of genocide and slavery were applicable practices to modern problems; hell the current president thinks variously incredulous things.
And we shouldn't criticize them? Is that the point?
Both American presidents and Abrahamic faiths have, historically, justified slavery and genocide (and often by the same pretense.)
And the current President's ridiculous beliefs are just as ridiculous as believing in transubstantiation. Believing angels manifest on Earth and intercede in human affairs is no more rational believing that aliens are manifesting on Earth but are really demons, which Catholic VP JD Vance believes. The former is just more culturally accepted, and thus given the weight of dignity, but both are valid as far as a naive and literalist interpretation of the Bible is concerned, because demons exist in the Bible, but not aliens.
Either way, as much as the Pope is a silly man in a silly hat looking like a fucking wizard who is required to believe in supernatural nonsense while leading a corrupt den of pedophiles, he's also absolutely and objectively correct on this specific topic and it's clear he's put far more researched thought into his opinions on AI than 99% of people on HN. Hell, he even apologized for the Church's historical support of slavery, and many people here won't even concede that slavery was ever a problem.
The only significance here with history is we don't repeat it. There is no reason ever concede anything. Its akin to dwelling on indians introducing americans to tobacco. No group of people in the future should be judge on peoples beliefs or indiscretions. There is no connection.
Yeah so? That's not really "news" anyway.
I'm sure most of the elite probably hold similarly wonky views.
In other news? Why not talk about this news? Do you disagree with the Pope?
> Do you disagree with the Pope?
Yes I do. I don't think you a prayer can literally transform wine into blood. How about you?
You do know it is not literal transformation?
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Presidents through out American history has believed various forms of genocide and slavery were applicable practices to modern problems; hell the current president thinks variously incredulous things.
So you know, you might want to adjust your measuring stick before you critique people.
Both things can be true at the same time, so shutting down the critique (possibly because it is critiquing something you like??) just because another critique can be made is not a good counter argument
In that case, the Pope does not believe "wine turns to blood if you say things to it."
That claims is, very simply, a lie.
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Lets not forget the hideous acts that this church has commited against young men and children in america. This would the last place I'd accept leadership advise from.
This message is not focused on u.s or its presidents. Its focused on leadership world wide.
The people best suited to give advice on how AI should be used, distributed, and controlled are probably those disconnected from the profit structure of AI.
Not every conversation is about Trump, is it possible to stop this?
I think the whole world would like to stop talking about Trump.
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inb4 "EvERyTHing Is PolItiKz"
Their excuse was that they lived a long time ago when people were idiots. What's the popes excuse today?
> Presidents through out American history has believed various forms of genocide and slavery were applicable practices to modern problems; hell the current president thinks variously incredulous things.
And we shouldn't criticize them? Is that the point?
Both American presidents and Abrahamic faiths have, historically, justified slavery and genocide (and often by the same pretense.)
And the current President's ridiculous beliefs are just as ridiculous as believing in transubstantiation. Believing angels manifest on Earth and intercede in human affairs is no more rational believing that aliens are manifesting on Earth but are really demons, which Catholic VP JD Vance believes. The former is just more culturally accepted, and thus given the weight of dignity, but both are valid as far as a naive and literalist interpretation of the Bible is concerned, because demons exist in the Bible, but not aliens.
Either way, as much as the Pope is a silly man in a silly hat looking like a fucking wizard who is required to believe in supernatural nonsense while leading a corrupt den of pedophiles, he's also absolutely and objectively correct on this specific topic and it's clear he's put far more researched thought into his opinions on AI than 99% of people on HN. Hell, he even apologized for the Church's historical support of slavery, and many people here won't even concede that slavery was ever a problem.
The only significance here with history is we don't repeat it. There is no reason ever concede anything. Its akin to dwelling on indians introducing americans to tobacco. No group of people in the future should be judge on peoples beliefs or indiscretions. There is no connection.
How can a person apologise for something they never did, to people it never happened to?
Talk about nonsense.
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