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Comment by Aurornis

1 day ago

> and stop using token usage as a metric of productivity

I participate in some management-focused online communities. It’s crazy how many threads there are from frustrated managers trying to get their teams to stop thinking that their token use will be used as a proxy for their performance.

I think a few dumb companies did this and then it spread across social media, triggering a mass panic from engineers afraid their companies will be doing the same thing.

It’s getting so bad that the conversation is shifting to how to identify and coach the token-maxxers to stop wasting the team’s budget every week.

> managers trying to get their teams to stop thinking that their token use will be used as a proxy for their performance.

Because it is going to happen. Do you think metrics are tracked for fun?

Even if current leaders don't do it, next people might do it, how do you tell new leaders that we don't look at this metric? Metric exists to take action based on it

  • You missed the second half of my comment: There’s more to a metric than making one number go up. It’s becoming a real problem when people use 10X more tokens to get similar work done because they’re tokenmaxxing.

    Nobody wants 90% of their token budget spend going to the 10% of people wasting them for number-go-up purposes.

    Inefficient token use is going to become a metric.

> I participate in some management-focused online communities.

I know - slightly off topic - but would you be willing to share this list?

I can personally verify that Cisco does it and they're not exactly at the top of the food chain. It's probably more common than you think.