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Comment by nailer

4 hours ago

Avoid aria tags. The spec is unworkable (see this document) the browsers made by the disability industry extract vast quantities of money from disabled people with little effectiveness because they try and boil the ocean which unsurprisingly is ineffective.

Support efforts for computer vision based browsers, MCP and APIs.

> MCP

Respectfully screw making users rely on AI for accessibility. Just make the damn page accessible already. Actually, more like make sure you don't break the accessibility that's there by default with correctly written plain HTML.

  • > Respectfully screw making users rely on AI for accessibility.

    Why? It's the right tool for the job.

    > Just make the damn page accessible already.

    Oh so just modify every website and expect the disabled people to wait while this happens?

    This disabled web browser industry doesn't care about disabled people. Their solutions don't work, disabled browsers are expensive because government grants are given to purchase them.

    • For a use running into broken pages, sure, you have to compose with what you have.

      As a developer, however, get your shit fixed! Don't expect visitors to run AI...

    • > Why? It's the right tool for the job.

      No, it's not. Why should disabled users be forced to indirectly interact with a webpage via a non-deterministic agent, rather than directly interact with one that's specifically designed to accommodate them?

To hell with using vision based AI for web accessibility. it really isn't that hard to get right. Semantic html is already accessible. ARIA can help when devs want to use the wrong elements for some reason or for custom controls.

  • > it really isn't that hard to get right.

    Yes you just need every website to use it, rather than fixing the client. Which is the 'boil the ocean' strategy mentioned in the comment you're replying to.

    > ARIA can help when devs want to use the wrong elements for some reason or for custom controls.

    But it can't. See this article.