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Comment by redhale

7 hours ago

I understand and sympathize with this point of view.

I would just say this: there is a difference between advice for using a product, and for _optimizing_ your use of a product. Between a user and a power user.

I think devs probably disproportionately like to see themselves as power users of any given tool, and thus with coding agents, there are 1000 "systems" being thrown out on GitHub on any given day. Generally speaking, it is safe to avoid these, especially if you're new to the tool.

But saying the fact that people are into optimizing their setups indicates some fundamental deficiency of the tool misses the point, I think.

Claude Code and Codex CLI (and OpenCode, and I'm sure many others) are _remarkably_ effective right out of the box. The teams behind these tools must make them _generically_ useful so that they are accessible to as many people, and as many use cases, as possible. That is part of why, when you become familiar with the tool, there is typically going to be a level of customization you can apply to it to optimize it for _your_ use cases, beyond the generic out of the box configuration.

Similarly, I don't think it would be fair to critique VS Code simply because most power users augment it with a suite of extensions. In fact, it's customizability/extensibility is part of what makes it great.

I absolutely understand the power user perspective. The point is not that, and maybe I wasn't clear enough in pointing it out.

Here, something different is going on instead of the usual "base tool is ok for 90% of use cases, remaining 10% is covered by plugins and extensions". A lot of developers are finding it difficult to commit to agentic coding workflows, feeling a stretch on a lot of different aspects.

Companies, with the help of a very prominent and vocal part of the web and social media community, are addressing every issue by simply blaming the users, saying it's their fault if they're not keeping up with all the alleged advancements in prompt strategies. See the whole "maybe you haven't tried it in the last two months, everything's changed now". While it's true that things have been moving very fast, the fundamental idea behind the technology is the same, and some concerns about it simply cannot be wiped away by scaling some factors.