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Comment by butlike

3 hours ago

I agree and on my death bed I'm going to realize I spent my life working from home, talking to a machine, and not enriching any person's life directly. It's just so gruesomely LONELY.

There are still in-office jobs out there, where you can have lunch with humans, and maybe even make friends with your coworkers. I have one. It's not a popular opinion on this site, but it's OK to admit that being isolated home alone for 40+ hours a week is not healthy for your personality type.

  • I'm back in the office (3 days a week) and there's some weird cultural thing on my team that I don't quite understand. Coworkers I sit next to will message me on Teams instead of just standing up and talking to me over the cube wall. No one eats lunch together or really converses outside of meetings. We have meetings on Teams even though everyone in the meeting is in the office sitting next to each other. I'll book rooms for the meetings and inform the team only to be the only one in the room.

    I sometimes wonder if the change to the culture and ways of working from the covid-era WFH days became more pervasive than I realized.

  • Remote doesn't need to be isolating. You can make friends with remote coworkers, but it requires a culture where jumping on a call to work things out is normalized.

    I've found most work communication apps not to be very condusive to it, but Discord is pretty good.

    • Yea, you have to be proactive. I have friends with non-traditional work schedules to spend time with during the working hours when I take breaks from work. I go to coffee shops and make friends with the workers there. And I make sure to engage in social activities like group cycling. I love WFH but would never make it so I am sitting in front of my computer alone at home 40 hours a week.

It hurts that I relate with this so much. I am wasting my 20s.

I see people who advocate for permanent wfh has plans with their social circle. Either already has a family or friends. Sucks to be the one trying to build a new life.

Btw, I don’t believe them a bit. All I see are rotten people who no longer speaks new things, or is a living instagram bot.

  • Different strokes for different folks at different stages in their lives. If I wrote OP's post 7 years ago before WFH, I'd have said: "on my death bed I'm going to realize I spent my life driving 2.5 hours each way to an office to type into a machine and to maintain physical proximity to people I don't really like or dislike. It's just so gruesomely UNNECESSARY."

COVID will be seven years old this December. Many of us here are still working from home since that time.

It doesn’t feel like seven years. 2020 feels like last year.

What can one typically accomplish in seven years? An undergrad, masters, and maybe a PHD. It is a long time.

The years have flown by

Yeah but that's because people suck so fucking much.

1. "Sorry can't come" an hour after we were supposed to meet - this alone kills 80% of my friendships

2. "I like edgy humor" and then a month later "I'm going to report you to HR" literally had this happen to me

3. Most people have very little depth and stick to superficial smalltalk, which I find very exhausting

And when on top of that you say "I wish my friend had similar values and enjoyed at least one common hobby" then it's basically over. Not to mention the fact that most people aren't open to new friendships. If they're married then they straight up say "wife doesn't allow", if they're not then it's "yeah let's grab a coffee someday".

My motto is "if you want to go fast, go alone, if you want to go far, go alone" because trying to be cooperative with people has never yielded me better results than just doing the shit on my own.

  • This is the result of having everything customised to you. I don’t know how old you are and I am not going to assume. I feel the way we live our lives, algorithmic everything tailored to us, we just don’t accept differences anymore.

  • Yeah people are like that but you have to keep trying. It's better than the alternative.