Comment by akdor1154
21 hours ago
I disagree with the theory that scrolling frame rate doesn't need to be smooth for scrolling to feel smooth.
On mobile it kinda does. Scrolling diffs on mobile just kinda feels crap.
I have been spoiled by years of engineer hours spent getting scrolling to be 60- or even 120Hz smooth to match my finger, and diffs just.. isn't.
I know this is frustrating to hear, and that this is technically compounded by mobile probably having the lowest device performance to be playing with too, but.. There you go.
> disagree with the theory that scrolling frame rate doesn't need to be smooth for scrolling to feel smooth
It's possible you might be misunderstanding what I was trying to say here because 120hz scrolling on a 120hz device was the goal and why one of those virtualization techniques was not acceptable to me which lead me to coming up with a novel workaround to this problem (Inverse Sticky Technique).
CodeView uses a system that allows scrolling to update at your native framerate (120hz) WITHOUT needing Javascript needing to keep up at 120hz. If you're seeing stuttering while scrolling on https://diffshub.com would love to know more context (device/diff link/etc) because that is very much NOT our experience.
Even the linked ghostty PR on your home shows this - this is Firefox Android on a Nokia XR21 / TA-1486.
It's not unuseable, but it definitely feels like 'js hacking my scrolling' and not a native surface flinging around.
The experience is actually worse with smaller movements, i guess because my brain is more conscious when breaking the 'finger physically moving the text' illusion.
I don't mean to be dismissive - you're working on a really hard problem, and you're clearly approaching it with a mindset of perfection. I'm posting because I know you're probably able to solve this too :)
Edit: as a point of (unfair) comparison, the codemirror Huge File demo works fine: https://codemirror.net/examples/million/ It does suffer from the occasional partial paint when quickly coasting, but I'm not bothered by this at all, it's far less intrusive than dropping frames / stuttering / etc.
Maybe i need to buy one of these devices to test.
Just to be clear tho, we don't actually scroll jack, native scrolling works as it should and content should move with normal gpu composited scroll. That said, it's possible that loading that much data into memory may be causing causing knock on effects somehow that are just slowing everything down.
Matters a great deal on desktop too, and laptops for that matter. Even more on platforms like macOS that smooths scrolling by default too, but very noticeable on Windows and various Linux distributions too when native scrolling is janky/choppy, and it frustrates even casual users.