Comment by whatthesmack
5 days ago
Hasn't everything DeepSeek and Alibaba created thus far been distilled from the results of many, many accounts logging into Claude and ChatGPT? And that's why there's so much bot detection now at US frontier labs? Doesn't that make the Chinese labs dependent until some unknown point in the future on advancements of US frontier labs? While what they currently provide is cheap, it seems like it's artificially cheap and somewhat static because they took others' intellectual property (no comment needed about US frontier labs stealing the world's knowledge... that's a separate topic).
> Hasn't everything DeepSeek and Alibaba created thus far been distilled from the results of many, many accounts logging into Claude and ChatGPT?
I doubt it is really any different to what the US labs do [1]. I never really bought the "they were basically all just distilling from us" shtick from Anthropic, I just assumed they were either comparing or also creating training data as basically any lab is doing.
[1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeCode/comments/1tqaist/opus_48...