Comment by rglullis
1 hour ago
> Think of what processes and management was used for pyramid building
For what, a glorified tomb?
I fail to find anything in history that advanced the sciences or the arts through "collective effort of hundreds or thousands of humans". It's only for war or to consolidate power in the hands of the ruling class, never for the benefit of society at large.
> It's only for war or to consolidate power in the hands of the ruling class
Consider Egyptian and Mesopotamian irrigation and flood management, Persian and Roman roads, Chinese canals...
What about them? These technologies already existed, the only thing that changed is that economies of scale enabled by the centralized power. Smaller tribes and villages could have gone by implementing more localized solutions.
Roman aqueducts, modern railroads, the moon landing, the LOTR films, CERN, or Wikipedia...
This seems like an open-and-shut case of failing to look for disconfirming evidence.
The moon landing is definitely a fruit of war efforts.
Wikipedia is the opposite of a top-down process.
Aqueducts and railroads: responded on a sibling comment.
LOTR films: I don't even know how it relates to the point, but it's funny that you bring a cultural landmark that it's an adaptation of the works of a single individual.
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All right, but apart from the sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system and public health, what have the bosses ever done for us?