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Comment by ku1ik

17 hours ago

„Built on Windows”. That’s like anti-ad these days. Maybe, maybe worth looking at if you can run other OS than Windows on it, but that will probably take some time.

The emphasis on the fans kicking off also had a bit of a turn-off.

  • Can't believe they led with that in the promo video. They potentially have whats finally a competitor to an apple silicon MBP, and they lead with fans?? I love my macbooks precisely because they are silent (among other things, obviously).

    • When I clicked, I thought that it was going to smash the turbine blades from the animation to suggest something like "all the performance without the thermals," but nope, they just became laptop fans. And seconds later, it started blowing heat/steam out of them!

      That's the most uncanny marketing for an ARM laptop I've ever seen.

    • Yes the MBP is very quiet when doing easy stuff but run games and heavy duty software and those fans are required to get work done.

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Ya, i dont know of anyone wanting to run very large AI models in a windows environment. Or, frankly, on a laptop. Why not just VPN into a dedicated server?

  • With BUILD happening tomorrow, I suspect Microsoft is going to have some stuff about local AI there with MS Foundry on Windows/Foundry Local. The timing of this announcement a day before BUILD is obviously intentional.

    Suddenly all the Windows K2 stuff makes sense, but I doubt it'll be enough. Its too little too late for Microsoft.

  • How much does a dedicated server with 128GB vram cost a month.

    • How well will the local LLM run when your laptop is in your bag while you're walking around?

    • I mean not that much? You buy the hardware once and then it’s just running for many years

    • You can get an H200 (141GB) here for $2,700/mo: https://deploybase.ai/articles/h200-price

      I could be wrong but my understanding is that 24/7 dedicated servers are wildly economically unviable. The reason cloud tends to cost less than local today (other than the subsidization) is because you aren't running models 24/7. So like 6 hours of cloud per weekday might beat the yearly cost of building local machines, but it's not in the same universe if you're running 24/7, as evidenced by two months of H200 rental costing more than the DGX Spark this Laptop is built out of.