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Comment by kotaKat

12 hours ago

Sooooo they binned all their old DGX Spark crap to pawn on poor clueless consumers to try to be an ARM fighter and probably still fail miserably behind Apple Silicon and even likely older Qualcomm metal running Windows.

And Mediatek? Oof. I assume the SOC comes pre compromised out of the box.

> And Mediatek? Oof. I assume the SOC comes pre compromised out of the box.

If by compromised you mean “china bad”, mediatek is taiwanese not chinese. Same home as asus, asrock, tsmc, htc, acer, d link, adata, biostar, insyde, gskill, foxconn, realtek and many others. From the chip to bios in your pc probably.

If you mean quality, they make efficient and more powerful chipsets especially gpu wise compared to qualcomm. Most probably only know it from cheap chinese phones.

  • MediaTek used to supply a lot of lower-performance MIPS and ARM chips during 2010s. GP probably has that MediaTek == bad experience association. The actual chips weren't unreliable or horribly engineered, just slow, but people don't make a clear distinction there.

    • Sure but MediaTek isn't making the actual CPU, they're just making the unimportant parts of the chipset, who cares

  • no, not calling "china bad", calling out all the SOCs they had some pretty glaring exploit holes on that a bunch of stupid OEMs kept shipping long after the holes were well known. i've also had a pretty bad time with a lot of their wifi chipsets on our networks, but hey.

    • That is true. But to be fair, the exploits needed physical access to the device and Qualcomm also had their fair share of those issues. I believe actually trust worthy companies who ship both chips did actually fix those issues.

      It’s the no name brands. And those are all odm devices which mtk already sold off. Talking about MT65xx era where you didn’t even need to unlock the bootloader for a flash.

  • That’s your interiorised racism talking, bro.

    Mediatek used to make a lot of low-quality cpus for cheap and short-lifespanned products (eg: those cheap tablets that are essentially useless as soon as they hit the market)

It’s kind of irrelevant that they might be behind apple silicon because they’re targeting the non-apple, windows-using, section of the laptop market with a chip that can ostensibly be used for running AI models locally. Whether there’s much appetite for business users doing that remains to be seen.

  • The problem isn’t the chip. The problem is Windows and the level of Microsoft support going forward and right now Microsoft is preoccupied/distracted with Copilot.

    That is the main problem that Qualcomm having currently with Microsoft.