Comment by pton_xd
3 hours ago
The purpose of a gun is to kill things, whereas the purpose of a chat bot is to help people. They're not really in the same category of tool.
3 hours ago
The purpose of a gun is to kill things, whereas the purpose of a chat bot is to help people. They're not really in the same category of tool.
The purpose of chat bots is profit (which could well be argued to help a select few people).
Alternative take: The purpose of "thing" is "what it is used for", which is a crude variation of "the purpose of a system is what it does". Reducing it to a single definition is almost always going to be inaccurate.
The way it is used defines it's purpose. The screwdriver was used to open the milo tin so the milo could be removed from the tin. The gun was used to make a hole in the milo tin so the milo could be removed from the tin. Purpose is a per-unique-scenario proposition. The best tool for the job is the one that's available.
To intentionally misquote Arthur Weasley: "What exactly is the purpose of a rubber duck?"
> purpose of a gun is to kill things
I’ve fired guns. Never to kill things. I’ve also used chat bots to be entirely useless. I wouldn’t endorse this dichotomy of purpose as a basis for any judgement.
A gun puts holes into things. This has a pretty consistent effect on anything alive.
Many gun proponents seem to think of them like most people do knives when knives have many, many domestic purposes beyond killing things that have a life. Same things with cars given there's many things cars can do besides get people and things from place to place.
> whereas the purpose of a chat bot is to help people.
I'm flabbergasted you'd say such a thing.
The purpose of a chat bot is to have an interesting experience with an AI. That it may help you is secondary (and perhaps necessary for the provider to make a profit).
Even "purpose" might be anthropomorphizing the chatbot
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Fair but my point is simply, if a gun kills a person it's functioning as intended, but you can't say the same about a chat bot.
> if a gun kills a person it's functioning as intended, but you can't say the same for a chat bot
Of course you can. AI has been deployed in multiple military campaigns.
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A gun doesn't kill a person without being driven to action by a human. There are numerous alternative weapons to use, like using a candlestick in the conservatory or a rope in the lead pipe in the study for example.
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Their job is to generate text if that text is good or bad they are functioning as intended.
you're just flipping it the opposite wrong way, just because I don't use something for its intended purpose doesn't change the intended purpose
guns were purpose-designed as killing machines, the fact that you can also shoot targets with them doesn't really change that... it's no mistake that many common paper targets are human or animal shaped
you could also shoot targets all the same with something designed to be non-lethal
whatever the justification, buying a gun carries on the behavior that has resulted in pretty much the most widespread trades of a lethal device in history... small arms trade worldwide is absolutely brutal
> you're just flipping it the opposite wrong way
I'm not. Rejecting a dichotomy doesn't mean endorsing its opposite. Guns are absolutely more dangerous than chatbots. But I don't think going off a narrow purpose concludes anything about this lawsuit.
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I have a really hard time with this argument because I'm _positive_ 99.99% of bullets fired in the US are NOT being fired to kill things. So I see people this arguments and its like, hm, interesting. Interesting that the overwhelming vast majority of the use of this thing is NOT the use that you are claiming it is used for. Doesn't hold up.
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The AI slop accounts that are absolutely flooding social media and are controlled by scammers or propagandists are there to help people?
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