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Comment by JumpCrisscross

15 hours ago

> the money has to come from somewhere, no?

Yes. Equity investors. The ones who buy hundreds of billions to trillions of dollars of American stocks a quarter.

And these equity-investors, do they use their own money to buy the (presumably non-voting) stocks?

Cause if that's the case, I see no reason for a government bailout should things go south. Nobody's pension would be affected by some private investor losing money on a bad investment.

But if that's not the case, then someone somewhere along the chain is acting as a bank, subject to a vibe-driven run.

  • > these equity-investors, do they use their own money to buy the (presumably non-voting) stocks?

    Yes [1].

    > Nobody's pension would be affected by some private investor losing money on a bad investment

    ...pensions also invest in the stock market.

    > if that's not the case, then someone somewhere along the chain is acting as a bank, subject to a vibe-driven run

    You're confusing deeply unrelated concepts. Whether or not someone who loses money is politically sympathetic has nothing to do with whether they're at risk of a bank run.

    [1] https://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/z1/20260319/html/f22...

    • I made no mention of anyone being politically sympathetic or otherwise. A private investor is _private_ and thus not subject to a government bailout. The argument for government bailouts used to be that "grandpa would lose his pension", I merely stated the terms that would make this non-applicable.

      If pensions invest in the stock market, then they are de-facto acting as a bank. And last I checked, in the land of the free, you get to withdraw your 401k should you vibe with the decision to do so [please don't do this based on this post alone].

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  • If much of the money comes from passive funds, presumably the other stocks in those funds will need to be sold?