Comment by comboy
9 hours ago
> As a complete nerd, you'd think maybe I'd like that I can prove my skills like this, but it comes off as deeply disrespectful to me as the user that I can't disable this.
You seem to have understood the problem. But then you didn't follow. If there was a way to disable this, first thing that the grandma would do is watch a video how to disable that and lose security from then on.
Of course it is not perfect, but their approach here is really decent. And also, if you find yourself needing to go through that often I think that's not a good sign security-wise.
Their approach is not decent. There should be some kind of master key to get full admin access. Leaving al the keys in the hand of a mega corporation is asking for trouble.
It's gone so far that even tech people now think that having root access to a mobile device is somehow scary. Well guess what that root access is still there for the manufacturer. It needs it for stuff like updates. It just shields you from having any kind of input or visibility on what is going on.
And once you've given up your admin control to the mega corporation, your government is going to be next. They'll be demanding backdoors and regulatory bullshit like age verification and snooping backdoors. Even today the EU launched yet another chatcontrol proposal. Eventually they'll manage to get it through when they've paid off enough representatives.
Keeping full control is the only way to prevent this.
Doesn't the government already have root to whatever machine via the NSA? It's the downstream government, the state-level governments that are squeaky wheels with the age verification and other nonsense.
you really underestimate the will of people to not change anything that annoys them about their OS. they will click 1 million times a popup away before even considering that it could be resolved indefinitely by an option change. i think Apple's system works well to keep the average user safe.
This is evidenced by the people who constantly dismissed the Wi-Fi pop-up on iOS. Which is just about everyone I know with an iPhone.
Which pop-up do you mean?
Agreed. It just doesn't occur to most people. To even come up with the idea that maybe there's a setting for something, never mind searching for a tutorial on how to change it, you already have to be a power user for some values of "power".
The grandma is going to follow the video on how to disable system security because scammers are making these videos and she think she has a virus.
Not because she wants to install brew or something.
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Could make it disable-able only from the terminal in recovery mode. That one would be too hard / bothersome to fend off most cases I feel like
Did you know that Facebook actually has a message styled with color and different font sizes that pops up in the browser console when you open the inspector for Facebook.com with instruction not to paste things you're told to paste there, with a link to https://www.facebook.com/selfxss for more information?
Never underestimate the ingenuity of a motivated fool.
My litmus test for this sort of thing is Excel - I think we all can agree that Excel is used for way more than it should be, and the most complicated, unhinged uses of it are done by non-technical folks looking to get a task done through desperation.
At that point it's a them problem.
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