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Comment by lxgr

2 hours ago

> A fully working computer that is literally the size of a credit card.

Nit: A (chip) credit card is already a fully working computer :)

Only if it is inside a specially designed radio field and with no independent IO. Feels like a battery and IO justify the 'fully working' differentiation.

  • Interesting philosophical question: Is a tower PC that's not plugged into anything (neither power nor a keyboard or monitor) a computer? Does computation happen if nobody can perceive it? And is a computer a computer even between two CPU cycles?

    > no independent IO

    I would challenge that! How is a smartcard different from a server in a qualitative sense? Both get all their I/O over the network.

    Some cards even have a display, fingerprint reader, or can blink an LED (the latter unfortunately only indiscriminately when powered up, not in response to any computation, I'm afraid).

    • Is a bare SoC a computer? You can poke the pins to provide power and I/O.

      The interesting thing about this project is that this computer can function independently within a credit card sized space.

  • I've never heard a definition of a computer to include its power source.

    IO is of course required.