Comment by GaryBluto
2 days ago
Almost exactly the same story here. I've also had little to no refusals from DeepSeek, with it's Chinese values meaning substantially less friction when it comes to things like reverse engineering, finding copyrighted files, working with dubiously-sourced source code, et cetera. I don't think I'd go back to Copilot even if they dropped prices by 90%.
Are you purchasing directly from DeepSeek? Any concerns as far as privacy or data protection?
Using OpenRouter, going to migrate to DeepSeek's official API soon. I'm not using it for anything commercial or for private data so I have no privacy qualms.
Makes sense. Privacy is my only real hang up with DeepSeek. Both of the big SOTA providers have become extremely filtered. Things that I could do one version ago are now getting refusals. Anthropic is almost unusable. ChatGPT is slightly better. Even with a "cyber exception" in place and a vetted account. They are going to force me to take my business elsewhere.
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> Any concerns as far as privacy or data protection?
We moved to OpenCode Go ($10/mo), so we could switch between DeepSeek v4, GLM 5.1, and Qwen 3.7 models run by providers in EU, US, & Singapore that OpenCode FAQ claims don't use retained data for training.
I find their rather verbose privacy policy is not making far-reaching guarantees about any of this though: https://opencode.ai/legal/privacy-policy
> Qwen 3.7 models run by providers in EU, US, & Singapore that OpenCode FAQ claims don't use retained data for training.
Note: Alibaba Cloud is the only company that currently offers Qwen 3.7 models (they haven't released any open weight versions yet), and according to OpenRouter, they retain prompts for an unknown period. So they might not explicitly use your data for training, but they do store it indefinitely on their servers and can potentially[0] use it for all sorts of other purposes.
[0]: Disclaimer: I haven't read their privacy policy. Just pointing out that it's not so simple.