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Comment by sfn42

1 day ago

A lot of the time if you're copying code from one place to another what you actually want to do is abstract it so you can reuse it in both places.

The LLM can easily do this type of stuff, just tell it and it'll happily do it. This is exactly what I mean when I tell people they need to work closer with the AI, tell it how to do things. Don't just tell it what to do and get frustrated when it does it differently than you would.

A good way to achieve this without writing huge prompts is tell it to plan the change first. Just give it some vague low-effort directions. It'll usually get most things right, you tell it what you want different and once you're happy you tell it to go ahead.

There are a lot of instances where you don't want to create an abstraction that will tie two disparate areas of the code together even if they happen to be using a similar pattern you want to copy. For example, when you expect their implementations to diverge in the future.

I have experienced enterprise codebases that have been DRY'd to the point they become ossified.

  • That's why I said "a lot of the time". Not always. And it's not really a problem to de-DRY things, literally just copy/paste and make the change you want. The bigger problem in my eyes is when the requirements start to diverge people just add an if branch and soon you have a function/component that does 7 different things depending on how it's used and it's a big buggy mess.

    It's also possible in many of these cases to identify sub-patterns you could abstract, to create a set of tools you can compose in different ways in order to satisfy the different use cases. Instead of one function/component you make multiple, and use them together.

    All this stuff is just basic programming but I've mostly given up trying to preach about it. Most people don't care, and even if they did care they just don't have the talent to write really good code. It's rare to find a dev who does really solid work. In my experience you either do it because that's who you are, or nothing I say will make any difference.

Nah the codebase is legacy fucked and I cant be bothered to try and optimize business flows without the fear of other stuff breaking.

Claude 100% of the time even thinks we use laravel despite the project being some old lumen codebase, so most of laravels features are not available. It also gets the PHP version we are using wrong 100% of the time.

  • Have you tried adding this information to claude.md so it knows?

    I also think your excuse is bad. "The code is legacy fucked so I'll just legacy fuck it some more because I can't be bothered to make an effort"

    • This is a spicy take, unless the business is willing to face some down time, and I am hired to do exactly what you said, I’d never touch any line of code unless I absolutely have to. Different environments don’t help as much.

      We tend to obsess over software quality when it’s the least important thing for a business. It’s just a means to an end.

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    • Are you some kind of entitled corporate dev that barely has any influence on the codebase? If I fuck up a whole business goes down as I am the only dev there currently. We cant afford that happening. Also why would I mess with anything claude.md related? I just use the CLI tool. LLM enthusiasts always claim how smart these things are so they should figure it out on their own, you know?

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