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Comment by lazide

12 hours ago

Guilds often very much did assert what people could and could not build - historically.

Against their will.

Historically that is a major reason why guilds existed, actually.

It’s an extremely modern invention that corps have these type of power over their customers.

You've lost the thread.

Here's your original claim: "no guild ever let a vendor pick and choose what their capabilities were"

A carpenter's guild can prevent other people from doing carpentry. That is not what's being discussed here.

A carpenter's guild cannot force a horseshoe maker to begin making hammers. That is what's being discussed.

Your initial claim was analogous to "never before has a horseshoe maker been able to decline making hammers when the carpenter's guild needed hammers"

Obviously they have and any other state of affairs would be flatly insane.

  • That is not my example at all, if we’re talking coding agents eh?

    • Your claim was that guilds have never allowed vendors to tell them what they're allowed to do.

      That would imply that guilds have always had the ability to force vendors to create and sell the tools the guilds wanted.

      That would imply that carpenters' guilds could force horseshoe manufacturers to make hammers.

      That is obviously not true, therefore your original claim is false.

      It's not true for carpenters and hammers nor for cybersecurity researchers and LLMs.

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