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Comment by JumpCrisscross

14 hours ago

> is SpaceX actually worth $1T

Actually irrelevant to an index calculation. If your index manufacturer is taking this into account at any level, they're actively managing. S&P predates the modern active-versus-passive dichotomy, but it functions within it in practice, and despite being a leader of committee-based indexing philosophy, they've broadly found success by also being champions of passive management. And part of doing that is rejecting judgement over how the market is weighing this or that.

That would be true IF the stock was already being traded.

All we have at the moment is just Elon saying "I think this is worth $1.5T, convincing a small subset of people to buy shares, and then because of this change, market following funds will be forced to pile in before the market has had time to discover the actual true fair price, thus artificially propping up the price until Elon has had time to unload a load more shares. The rule changes serve only Elon, not regular investors.

Historically, the share price falls sharply after an IPO in the vast majority of cases. In this case, with the asking price masssively over earnings, significantly more than any other company, it should be expected that the price will fall significantly in the weeks after IPO.

Shortening the window before it gets included in the index is a cheap trick to force passive investors to pile in at the inflated prices, in an attempt to artificially boost demand and prop up the share price.

If the company genuinely was worth the valuation being asked for in the IPO, they would have no problems with just waiting a few months before it would be included under the existing rules.

If someone is trying to bend the rules of my passively managed index fund to their will, are they trying to actively manage my passively managed index ETF ?

  • Only Elon is allowed to actively manage my passively managed fund. The fund manager shouldn't be allowed to do it!