Comment by testbjjl
1 day ago
I agree with a lot here and practice keto throughout the year and occasionally break to eat burritos, rice, pasta and drink beer because I enjoy them. But our ancestors were not in constant ketosis. They ate substantial carbohydrates in the food they consumed seasonally, though not as much as we consume today because of our tech. Also, doesn’t ice reduce blood flow? Lastly Ramadan and cancer rates are not supported. This discounts age distribution, smoking, genetics, environmental exposure, etc.
yeah, I've done keto very strictly for about a year, it solved a major problem in my respiratory system that I had for like.. all of my life
Today I have introduced many carbs back, like sweet potato, cassava, white rice, and fruits etc.. even some orange/grape juice. I just try to stay away from ultra processed foods and occasionally do some fasting.
About our ancestors, I mean... I think it would depend on where in world they were, what was available, and so on... But the majority of fruits didn't existed, and we didn't dominated agriculture and so on... I am not coming from the angle of "we need to go back to eating like our ancestors", but more like in "yeah, they didn't had food all the time, so they kind of were forced into ketosis and autophagy because of fasting"...
I mean, if you do a fast, you know that in like the 24-48 hours window you get a powerful focus, my guess is that the human would focus on hunting. but as you said, we didn't eat too much carbs as today, and the carbs were different as well.. take for example our wheat, it's mainly genetically modified, and so on...
about the ice, yeah.
about the cancer rates, take a look: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_cancer_ra...
it's not as easy to say "oh it's ramadan and that's it", but you can clearly see that the Middle East region and africa, which have tons of muslims, have lower cancer rates. intermittent fasting is done in ramadan. it will help with autophagy and health (if done properly).. but I agree that there are tons of other factors as you stated.
and because you cited smoking, I wanna share something. I've recently changed my mind about smoking.
I mean.. those cuban old folks that just chew tobacco all day... they die old. also we never hear about "smoking weed will give you lung cancer"...
that's because smoking tobacco... kind of doesn't give you cancer right away.. I mean, tobacco, specially when cured, will develop carcinogens, sure. but it will be like cooking food in a scratched teflon pan...
it's a plant, like marijuana, but it has been industrialized!
I've said to some people I know that smokes cigarettes: "Go to the tobacconist and buy rolling papers, filters, and shredded natural tobacco."... when they smoke they feel much more of a taste of the tobacco itself, feel it way stronger, and feel an absence of other taste which is only in the industrial cigarette.
idk how to explain cause I don't smoke. but I can only guess that those 9999999 chemicals are just gone... they might be added in the industrial process to further addict people idk..
Without engaging with the rest of your content, I have to point out that Wikipedia's "list of countries by cancer rates" is not actually a useful metric for the true rates of cancer in those countries. Poorer countries tend to have worse medical surveillance and likely undercount. People also die earlier of "other" things than cancer as well.
I understand the desire to make a coherent narrative that fits your beliefs but please recognize the limits in our ability to make causal statements about the causes of cancer.
that was just a quick example. I agree there are tons of noise.
but the biochemistry doesn't change, you just need to see the human system as... a system, like any other system. Yes it will vary depending on genetics, environment and so on, but the base model is still the same.
the system inputs: constant glucose spikes require constant insulin, which drives inflammation and shuts down autophagy, which is bad for cellular and specially mitochondrial repair. what's the output?
also, I don't think it's necessary to mention but... this is not the sole root cause for all cancers in all of history. this is not the "cure". it is not the holy grail... but ask yourself.. what lifestyle are young people having today?