Comment by larodi
5 days ago
One thing I can tell you is you are either favored by Anthropic, or your version of the CLI does not exhaust limits, or there's some major bug, as two people around me (myself included) claim it took half an hour to hit the ceiling. Which makes it practically unusable, where the same workflow a day ago produced a good 5-6 hours of workload with several agents.
Monetization is coming. They'll tell companies, AI is replacing your workers, so it is still worth to pay 100K/year for the license, as those AI are not going to jump to other job, get sick, be late, complain, require free coffee and so on.
Soon the times of AI for $20/$200 a month will be long gone.
Get people hooked, tell them spending time coding is no longer needed, let their skills deteriorate, tell them they need cough up for a licence to do their job
Forcing developers to pay for models that were build on code they scraped scott-free
A tax to do their job that developers are jumping at the chance to pay
Everybody's finally realising that node dependencies are a threat, but letting these AI companies gatekeep the industry is a bandwagon people are scrambling towards
> Forcing developers to pay for models that were build on code they scraped scott-free.
Yes this makes me sad behound explanation. Specially when I see open source developers happily using these tools. These companies stole your, free, hard work and charge you a subscription!! Not to speak about them torrenting books and (most likely) training on private repos.
This and devs paying a subscription to use a tool that is marketed as trying to replace them.
I had 150$ monthly budget thatbI used for various open source projects and I've cut that entirelly.
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> Forcing developers to pay for models that were build on code they scraped scott-free
That's also caused by some very smart (even brilliant) developers (you can see many of them in this very thread) choosing to be oblivious about all this and bury us all under, hoping that they'll be among the last ones to go. Writing this down I realise that they maybe aren't all that smart.
I've been saying this since the beginning, the rug pull is coming. If these models can eventually replace a human worker, there is no reason these companies won't charge (and get away with it) very close to a typical SWE salary.
It would not surprise me one bit to see anywhere from $80k-$100k/seat pricing.
Unless there is competition (e.g. Chinese models, taking you 80% there, but costing 20x less)
As someone noted here recently - use the frontier models as much as u can, while you can.
AI for $20/month won't ever go away, but it won't be the absolute latest and greatest frontier model.
Most of us don't need a model that can prove the Riemann hypothesis or Goldbach's conjecture in order to get work done.
Thankfully, we have Chinese models we can use for a fraction of the price.
Not everyone needs a Ferrari to go for a weekly shopping.
A Ferrari will likely lap you when you’re racing, though, and the market and the economy is a race. You’ll be facing a question soon, or your employer will, whether to spend a significant chunk of free cash on fable-class tokens or on literally anything else instead - wages and salaries included.
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They are most likely shills from Anthropic, there's quite a few here everytime new models come out.
That's not fair. Simon is a well-known shill for the entire AI industry, not just Anthropic.
What's your definition of "shill"?
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It’s not meant for subscription users; the subscriptions are just the gateway drug to Enterprise pricing which Anthropic intends to use to juice their numbers before IPO.
Or use API billing? We have access to it at my company with no limits
Are you on the $100/month subscription?
I am, and I used up the entire 5 hour window in 8min using the highest thinking setting. It also ate up $15 of extra usage before I noticed.
I’ve done the same thing with opus multiple times with no issue. According to ccusage I racked up just shy of $100 of tokens using Fable.
It spun up subagents or workflows or whatever so obviously that contributed but “double opus” was not my experience. I’ve done the exact same prompt with opus on the highest setting and only once before (not even while using this prompt) hit my limits.
My prompt? I’m not a prompt wizard or anything but it was literally:
> Please review the uncommitted code in this repo for bugs/issues/code smells.
I use variations on that all the time with opus and never had issues. I figured it was a good one to kick the tires with Fable. Little did I know it would mean no more Claude Code for the next 4.5hrs (unless I wanted to pay) after this being the first time I had used CC that day (yesterday).
All in all, a pretty crappy first experience.
Try running this command: and see what it thinks you spent at API prices:
Then edit the config file to add Fable pricing as described here: https://til.simonwillison.net/llms/agentsview-custom-model-p...
And run the command again. I get $126.89 for yesterday.
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simonw, if you are not bumping up against the same false-positive guardrail problems and budget consumption that everyone else is, then that is something worth digging into. I would normally say that's crazy but IPOs put weird pressure on companies.
I've had a couple of guardrail blocks.
I've been watching my usage quota bars drop as I use the model, so I don't think I have a weird quota issue going on here.