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Comment by hitekker

5 days ago

Billing statements disguised as marketing nudges is a cromulent business practice until the SaaS start sending bills to collections.

I think the author is being kind, both to themselves and startup practicing dark patterns. He walks through his own thinking, raises important questions and also gives the benefit of the doubt that I wouldn’t give.

IMHO, the article gets ahead of criticism well: accepting the valid critiques while also confining the weird/lazy ones to downvotes.

> Billing statements disguised as marketing nudges is a cromulent business practice until the SaaS start sending bills to collections.

Well, I should have probably said that instead of sued. But the intent is the same.

> I think the author is being kind, both to themselves and startup practicing dark patterns.

It's unclear it's a dark pattern. The author explicitly states that this particular EULA doesn't allow them to bill without a credit card.

But it's also unclear that this practice will survive the exposure on hacker news.

No, not because it's a "dark pattern" but because it enables customer dark patterns. Run up a bill and then go use something else.