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Comment by ai_slop_hater

11 hours ago

They don't know what a megabyte is

They feel the slowness of the page load

  • Not on their iPhones operating over 5G or the corporate WiFi.

    • It's still present. JSON/JS parsing still has a delay. And in either case (as the author states) not everyone is using an iPhone over 5G. Heavy React apps are a miserable experience on low end Android phones, even when the connection is fast. I've seen JS/JSON parsing times in the multiple seconds.

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    • Salesforce and SAP are not fast, even on that. But ubiquitous for building corporate platforms for their customers.

    • Read the article. Typical users had old browsers often with poor reception. One user was using a PlayStation Portable which had very limited WWW capability.

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    • "What, support Safari? Isn't that, like, less than 20%? And its standards support is abysmal! No, not worth my time, they can upgrade to a normal browser like everyone else."

  • But if they dont, where is the disrespect? They dont know what a megabyte is, they dont feel a slow page load. Where is the disrespect?

    React is too heavy weight for a lot of things. But it's ridiculous to call it disrespectful.

    • If Rick Rubin could take a tape to his car to listen to his mixes, your product people can try their websites on £20 phones from Tesco. They can ask to sit in on user tests with minority groups. Extending your knowledge like this is trivial, but rarely done.

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The consequences of MBs of JavaScript can be perceived by anyone in terms of performance and mobile data consumption.

+1.

I have been asked by someone in late 40s why uploading a video takes a lot longer than uploading a photo.

They are not dumb people. They just do not know.

The onus is on the engineers to design for them.

  • "Does it take longer to upload 10,000 photos than to upload 1 photo?"

    If a 40-year-old can not answer that question, then they are in fact - dumb.

    • This is a matter of perspectives here. Some of my friends are absolutely brilliant lawyers and they trump me in their reasoning abilities (while I am a typ. HN member, high-tech engineer). Yet, they would not know some tech basics. I see lawyers struggle with formatting in Microsoft Word all the time :-), for one.

      A brilliant physicist friend likewise once told me he is clueless how real numbers are handled in computers (not talking about floating point encoding specifics but conceptually itself). Yes, I can say that feels dumb, but I cannot deny that he is a brilliant physicist.

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