Comment by RobotToaster
5 days ago
We're talking about a country where someone had their house raided and their devices stolen by the police for tweeting "Du bist so 1 Pimmel" (you are such a dick) to a politician.
5 days ago
We're talking about a country where someone had their house raided and their devices stolen by the police for tweeting "Du bist so 1 Pimmel" (you are such a dick) to a politician.
Well, it is an insult and the insulted always, before the internet and now, has the right to sue for it. Only because it happened on the internet doesn't change the law.
This was later deemed inappropriate by courts. Shit happens -- as long as the corrective mechanisms work it is just exceptions.
I'm not super convinced that we can call something like that as "shit happens." in the US "shit" like this happens where cops wrongly raid someone's house and someone often dies because of of this. Though, I think it may be an example of corrective mechanisms not working, but this shouldn't have even happened once.
In Germany, police killing innocent people in house raids is a very rare occurrence, I can't remember a case but of course it's possible that it happened.
So maybe Americans should worry about their own business and not tell a country with a much longer history what is best for them?
It's not like the raids in the US because there are less guns around. So risk of someone dying because of a house search are pretty low (supported by police death numbers). This would be more about privacy violations and unnecessary chicanery.
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Why is it even allowed to raid someone for victimless crimes? It's a fundamental issue, not just a mistake.
Insulting someone is a crime in Germany. We can debate and then change this of course. I wouldn't call this a fundamental issue. It is just what we as a society decided on. (Maybe I'm too "Ze rules are ze rules" here)
Idk what exactly happend. But somehow they got approval from court to collect evidence of the crime (electronic devices) via house search. As said, the harm caused by the house search was later deemed unproportional to the crime.
Victimless when there was a clear target for the insult? Interesting, but wrong take.