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Comment by cmrdporcupine

4 days ago

You know the conservatives are supporting this bill as well... right?

And when Harper was in power they were trying to push something similar?

And that the petition linked here is an NDP petition?

Partisan grandstanding won't fix the issue. A mobilized public will.

Both the conservatives and the NDP have been fighting against Bill C-22.

  • That's how it's always gone. The people in power push it and the opposition fights it "for the people".

  • And how much of the conservatives issue with it are because the Liberal party put it forward. They have absolutely been bringing similar bills when they have control of the government.

This has nothing to do with partisan politics. If you elect a party 4 times in a row, they rightfully won't care about your opinions. Holding parties responsible for their decisions and NOT making it partisan ensures both parties better align with what voters want.

Electing the Liberals forever because "the Cons are evil" or whatever just means we'll turn into a Liberal dictatorship.

> You know the conservatives are supporting this bill as well... right?

That is not true at all.

https://www.conservative.ca/cpc/stop-online-government-surve...

  • Fair enough, this was not the case when I looked last week. They were "concerned" but had not posted anything in opposition.

    And when I looked this morning all I found was they'd asked it to be split into two bills. Implying they want to support some but not all. Which is worrisome.

    EDIT: wait, the thing linked here by you only says they want to amend it. That's a far cry from killing the bill. So, no, they're not opposed. The want to split and amend it.

    • Conservatives are against the whole surveillance on citizens aspect, that is the "Supporting Authorized Access to Information Act" part of this bill about electronic devices and service providers, the core controversial issue of this discussion, which they want removed.

      Conservatives have been very critical about it since the beginning. You can find plenty of sources where they discuss this.