Comment by brigandish
16 days ago
Fascists don't support free speech. Please, learn what that word means[0] and then use it responsibly. We're already seeing the effects of misusing and overusing several other important words for political/societal discourse, and this is one of them. It's entirely unhelpful and lowers the quality of conversation here.
[0] The Doctrine of Fascism is available, for free, in several places. Start there.
Does Elon _really_ support free speech?
* He suspended multiple journalists from Twitter/X in December 2022 after they had reported on or criticized him [0]
* He has been accused of retaliating against critics and employees through threats, lawsuits, or firings, rather than tolerating dissent. [1]
* He selective enforcing Twitter/X platform rules. Here's 10 examples: [2]
He tolerates speech he likes and often punishing speech he dislikes. That's not being a "free speech" absolutist.
[0] https://truthout.org/articles/free-speech-watchdogs-condemn-...
[1] https://www.businessinsider.com/free-speech-absolutist-elon-...
[2] https://gizmodo.com/10-times-elon-musk-censored-twitter-user...
> That's not being a "free speech" absolutist.
One doesn't need to be a free speech absolutist to not be a fascist, far from it; and the exceptions prove the rule - those examples are the definition of exceptional. "10 times…" I can remember people getting banned en masse for changing their profile pic to an NPC character. The difference is night and day.
Elon fits the definition in Britannica pretty neatly
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- Opposition to Marxism and socialism
I'd agree.
- Opposition to parliamentary democracy
Yes. buying elections
- Opposition to political and cultural liberalism
Yes, banned speech on twitter that trans people use.
- Totalitarian ambitions
Yes, buying elections
- Corporatism
trillionare
- Imperialism
Literally wants to colonize a planet
- Military values
Building a military satelite constellation
- Volksgemeinschaft
White supremacist
- Mass mobilization
election lottery, trump rallys
- The leadership principle
idk what this is
- The “new man”
or this
- Glorification of youth
i guess not
- Education as character building
what
- Decadence and spirituality
No.
- Violence
No.
- Extreme nationalism
xenophobe
- Scapegoating
those darn regulations are always in the way
- Populism
Possibly?
i'm sure your reply will be pedantic
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Fascists do claim to support free speech while wielding the apparatus of state to ensure that any speech that they disagree with is suppressed, eg on college campuses.
That's not a rebuttal. Claiming to support is not support.
Is Musk wielding the apparatus of state to ensure that any speech that he disagrees with is suppressed, e.g. on college campuses?
> Is Musk wielding the apparatus of state to ensure that any speech that he disagrees with is suppressed
He does not need to do that, he has his army of people like you that go around on all socials and wherever you can to post praise, defend him and attack any critics as he was some sort of uber genius savior of mankind. The Musk cult is real.
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uh... twitter