Comment by janaagaard
14 hours ago
I think the links should open in the same window (like they do here on HN) instead of in a new tab/window. If I want a separate tab, I can Cmd+click and Browsers don't have the reverse option for opening in the same window.
Bubbles dev here, I've heard you loud and clear and follow the discussion closely.
I will change the default behaviour to open links in the same tab like on HN or Lobsters soon. But first the HN visitor wave needs to calm down.
So many comments debating the philosophy around this. I like it when these type of sites open a new tab for me. Is there a way to just code in a toggle between the two link opening types?
This is the type of thing I have to fight against daily. You already have both action available - left click or middle click. Don't bloat your software with band aids for problems that don't exist - just train your users better.
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Middle-click a link to open a new tab. I can't force a link to open in the same window but I can with new tabs.
Sometimes it's easier to follow a link, have a look, and then go back without jumping around tabs.
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You can set a user preference to open in a new tab. The reverse is not true.
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I like that in Kagi I can set this as an option.
Default, on the same tab (since browsers have options around this), but allow users to select if they want it on a new tab/window.
Looks like a pretty good aggregation.
Kind of like a subset of what appears here but of course concentrated on blogs not other sources of news.
Looking at other comments some people are definitely going to prefer each link to open in its own tab.
One thing I see is because so many blogs are no different than a dead website for anybody using full security and privacy on their browser.
You wouldn't want your main page to turn into a dud every time somebody clicked on one of these dud blogs which are randomly scattered among the good links.
OTOH if you curated the blogs which are universal good links separately from the ones requiring the least bit of friction or compromise to security or privacy, that would be something I haven't seen anyone else do.
And it's needed now more than ever, plus the need's only going to increase.
Thanks for adding RSS! Bringing Bubbles (and HN) into NetNewsWire is a game-changer for content discovery and keeping a clean reading list.
Too bad it's so hard to submit a suggested blog.
Making it too easy invites spam.
Sending a single email seems like a good compromise to me.
I agree, that would be a good compromise and I would do it in a heartbeat, but that's NOT the procedure. More is required:
>Participating
>You log in with a Fediverse account (Mastodon, Pixelfed, GoToSocial, and others). If you don't have one, mastodon.social is free and takes two minutes.
For non-techies like me, Fediverse accounts and mastodon.social are non-starters.
Too bad.
A single email WOULD be great, as you point out.
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Is there some kind of process? I have a small website where I write articles, mainly about my programming language implementation.
nope, I prefer open in new tab by default
In general, it's better not to force an action onto users. You might prefer things opening in a new tab, but you always have that option. If it's forced on users, it is frustrating for those who would prefer that not to happen.
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And yet we're here, discussing how a developer should change their own application because their preference is wrong
If you don't like it, adjust it for yourself with an extension or script.
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That's a good user setting, but as opening in the same tab is the default browser behaviour then it should really stay that way. Opening in a new tab takes control away from the user.
Exactly. I prefer to open in the same page. If I want to open in new tab then I can always Ctrl + Click. I don't think I can do the reverse though.
This. Principle of least surprise.
Next they’ll be defending full screen div paywalls.
100% agree. I had to install a browser extension when I use HN with such (vs app on android, when it does it by default), just to force open links to new tabs.
Have you considered middle clicking instead of leftclicking?
I'd rather have an icon next to the link that implies "Open in new Tab" like one of these with the arrow:
https://www.flaticon.com/free-icons/new-tab
> I'd rather have an icon next to the link that implies "Open in new Tab" like one of these with the arrow:
That is a valid option for detachable UI elements seen in desktop apps.
Opening links in a separate tab or window is not that thought. That is a first class user flow in web design.
I too prefer that, but i don't want to force that choice on othet people.
CTRL+left click is ingrained in me now anyway.
I do as well, but I think it's good practice to put something like in a user preference setting somewhere if you are going to stray from default browser/system behavior.
And people who prefer the other way can just hold down _____ while clicking to open it in the current tab instead.
Good ol' _____-clicking saves the day again!
only on a mac, and probably only on safari which leaves the majority of people in the lurch.
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why the downvotes, I meant to demonstrate that I prefer the current behaviour so the site developer knows.
I like the new tab as well. Otherwise I will forget what I went to. My process is to go through an interesting site, like HN, and then be able to see these interesting sites after that.
I guess it depends on a persons web workflow though
The downvotes are because the discussion isn't really about "which option do users prefer". It's actually about returning user choice. As the original comment said: "If I want a separate tab, I can Cmd+click and Browsers don't have the reverse option for opening in the same window."
So when you say "Nope!", you're being downvoted because you're implicitly saying "actually users don't deserve choice".
The downvoters meant to demonstrate that they prefer the standard/expected behavior and would like OP to ignore your opinion on the matter.
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