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Comment by jstanley

7 hours ago

The emissions scandal is completely different, because in that case they were illicitly making the car work better for its owner.

Unless, of course, said owner cared for the environment

  • Said owner cares about their experience above the environment. Sure people care about the environment, but it is always lower than all the other factors in their personal list of things they worry about.

    That is why so many rich fly private jets to environment conferences. People put Greenpeace and similar bumper stickers on their SUVs that never go off road and rarely have more than one person inside. They care about the environment, but only when it doesn't impact anything else in their life.

    • > Sure people care about the environment, but it is always lower than all the other factors in their personal list of things they worry about.

      Emissions scale with performance, and inversely of fuel efficiency. So the environment may not be the most important point, but I'm pretty sure fuel efficiency is high on the list when you're picking a compact or long-range car that is supposed to be fuel efficient.

      Also, by advertising as compliant to green specs something that wasn't, means people may have been swayed to purchase irregular cars despite them not being really green, only due to the fact that they may have received rebates and contributions for the purchase, regardless of whether "being greener" ranked high on their decision metrics.

    • Data point: I bought a Skoda because of its claimed efficiency. It wasn’t the only factor, but in the balance of weighing things up, I cared that the stated emissions and fuel efficiency were better than some of the competitors.

      I was lied to. Had I known that was the case there is a good chance I would have gone with a different car.

      My car was recalled and reprogrammed and it no longer had the torque it had at first.

      Of course now it’s clear that most if not all manufacturers were doing the same trick, they just weren’t caught at it.

  • > cared for the environment

    It wasn't "more CO2" grade, it was "more NOx" grade. This in urban settings will actually kill more people with respiratory problems.

    VW's "clever hack" probably, statistically, killed people.