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Comment by ceejayoz

15 hours ago

> If you don't think industrial capacity is relevant to geopolitical power…

Of course it is!

But so does the quality of what that capacity puts out.

Again, the Russians found that out in Ukraine.

What does the Russian economy have to do with anything? First off, they're run by a kleptocratic oligarchy, and second of all they're still one of the top 5 most militarily powerful countries in the world. I don't even know what point you're making? Did they bail out Chrysler? Which side of the analogy are they even on?

  • > What does the Russian economy have to do with anything?

    They had more of that industrial capacity you're talking about than Ukraine, more tanks, more armaments, more weaponry.

    It still didn't let them win. Because the quality matters too.

    > First off, they're run by a kleptocratic oligarchy…

    I have some awkward news about the US in recent years.

    • This is just an example of the fundamental nature of asymmetric insurgent warfare and the nature of proxy conflicts. It's not like Vietnam was more powerful than the US economy either. You seem confused.

      In an all-out existential battle Ukraine would have been wiped off the map in the first 20 minutes by nuclear weapons. This isn't an actual contest of industrial might versus industrial might.

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  • > What does the Russian economy have to do with anything? First off, they're run by a kleptocratic oligarchy

    Kinda answered your own question there.