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Comment by dwroberts

14 hours ago

I guess jaywalking stuff makes this harder? Because in the UK for example, roundabouts will often be surrounded by marked areas for pedestrians to cross, but they are not proper crossings. You don't have to wait or expect traffic to stop for you, you just walk across when it's clear.

I don't understand your comment.

* Jaywalking makes.. what harder?

* In the UK, roundabouts are marked with areas for pedestrians to cross but they are not crossings? What are they, then?

* You don't have to wait

* But also you can't expect traffic to stop for you

* What do you do if it does not become clear?

  • > Jaywalking makes.. what harder?

    Crossing the road without a crossing or light or whatever explicitly telling you that you can do it.

    > In the UK, roundabouts are marked with areas for pedestrians to cross but they are not crossings? What are they, then?

    They are indented areas where the road (and often the centre barrier just before the roundabout) is marked for pedestrians but traffic is not obligated to stop. You cross the road when it is safe

    > What do you do if it does not become clear?

    If it was such total gridlock you can just cross in between traffic that is not moving?

It's much better when there's no traffic. When there's traffic, it often doesn't stop for you when it exits the roundabout (even if it technically should) because everyone is busy going around the circle as fast as possible (and driving in a circle means they might not have been looking at where you crossed). Sometimes they move the pedestrian crossings way back to give people more of a chance to stop, but that still requires drivers to stop when they don't feel forced to.