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Comment by netule

1 day ago

I moved here from The Netherlands in 2004, and have now lived in Florida, California, and Mississippi and stayed for prolonged periods in many US cities for my job. I wouldn’t feel safe riding a bicycle anywhere here considering the speed of traffic, the size of the vehicles, and lack of dedicated biking infrastructure. It’s a completely different world when you share the road with angry F150 drivers blasting past you at 80 MPH. No, thank you.

And drivers who themselves would never ride a bike. They see you as a nuisance.

  • We Dutch just hate both. If I'm on bike I hate all car drivers. If I'm in car I hate all bicycle drivers.

    • I think that is a general vibe. Mixing very different types of transportation on same road will always cause trouble.

    • That is a cute sentiment, because I imagine it pales in comparison to the loathing these groups feel towards each other in North America.

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  • I’m from the US and moved to the Netherlands but there are still some things I prefer about the US (bug screens on windows for instance)

    • >bug screens on windows for instance

      You can retrofit those on the cheap even in rentals. Hardly something major.

  • And? What's the gotcha you're implying?

    • That you clearly value other things the US offers over the transit situation. If the transit matters that much, making the US such an unlivable hellscape, why stay?

      I think that's probably the point they're trying to make.

      IMO that doesn't mean we shouldn't bother to make the transit better, but some people think its somehow related. A lot of people think the "success" of the US is strongly correlated to this suburbia design somehow.

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