← Back to context Comment by rayiner 5 hours ago Oh my god did we inadvertently train AIs on idiotspeak. 7 comments rayiner Reply canucker2016 2 hours ago It seems to be called the Rule of 3. see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_three_(writing)Like Caesar's supposed "Veni Vidi Vici" saying, people seem to prefer and remember items when grouped in three.I recall a public speaking film shown to my management science class starring John Cleese mentioning this rule of 3. Sharlin 2 hours ago Given that this specific style is the result of being reinforced over and over again via RLHF, "inadvertently" isn't really the word I'd use. andrepd 1 hour ago No, we actually trained it on standardised tests https://marcusolang.substack.com/p/im-kenyan-i-dont-write-li... 12_throw_away 3 hours ago > did we inadvertently train AIs on idiotspeak.Nope! That is - training on lowest-common-denominator, low-signal high-noise "idiotspeak" was not at all inadvertent. LearnYouALisp 4 hours ago In-advert-ently? BoredPositron 3 hours ago It's engaging and I doubt it happened by accident. slowmovintarget 1 hour ago * Checks notes *RedditTwitterFacebook4chanCall of Duty chat logsEvery public marketing siteSlashDotUseNet...Verdict: Yes idiotspeak was part of the training set, but no, it was not inadvertent. There's a smattering of Shakespeare in there, at least.
canucker2016 2 hours ago It seems to be called the Rule of 3. see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_three_(writing)Like Caesar's supposed "Veni Vidi Vici" saying, people seem to prefer and remember items when grouped in three.I recall a public speaking film shown to my management science class starring John Cleese mentioning this rule of 3.
Sharlin 2 hours ago Given that this specific style is the result of being reinforced over and over again via RLHF, "inadvertently" isn't really the word I'd use.
andrepd 1 hour ago No, we actually trained it on standardised tests https://marcusolang.substack.com/p/im-kenyan-i-dont-write-li...
12_throw_away 3 hours ago > did we inadvertently train AIs on idiotspeak.Nope! That is - training on lowest-common-denominator, low-signal high-noise "idiotspeak" was not at all inadvertent.
slowmovintarget 1 hour ago * Checks notes *RedditTwitterFacebook4chanCall of Duty chat logsEvery public marketing siteSlashDotUseNet...Verdict: Yes idiotspeak was part of the training set, but no, it was not inadvertent. There's a smattering of Shakespeare in there, at least.
It seems to be called the Rule of 3. see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_three_(writing)
Like Caesar's supposed "Veni Vidi Vici" saying, people seem to prefer and remember items when grouped in three.
I recall a public speaking film shown to my management science class starring John Cleese mentioning this rule of 3.
Given that this specific style is the result of being reinforced over and over again via RLHF, "inadvertently" isn't really the word I'd use.
No, we actually trained it on standardised tests https://marcusolang.substack.com/p/im-kenyan-i-dont-write-li...
> did we inadvertently train AIs on idiotspeak.
Nope! That is - training on lowest-common-denominator, low-signal high-noise "idiotspeak" was not at all inadvertent.
In-advert-ently?
It's engaging and I doubt it happened by accident.
* Checks notes *
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Facebook
4chan
Call of Duty chat logs
Every public marketing site
SlashDot
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Verdict: Yes idiotspeak was part of the training set, but no, it was not inadvertent. There's a smattering of Shakespeare in there, at least.