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Comment by ignoramous

21 hours ago

> This is a crazy conclusion for a situation that isn’t even two weeks old...

I think, this is all a culmination of rapidly eroding trust and soft power between US & its allies for the past 3y.

What allies?

You threatened to invade Canada and Greenland.

You surely don't think you're coming back from that?

  • They will obviously come back from that no questions about it. It’s like an abusive relationship that CA/EU can’t fully eject from, there will always be hope of conciliation because the benefits both ways are so massive and the relationships are so entrenched, it will take much more than DJT and Republicans/dark enlightenment technocrats to completely fracture these alliances.

    • Agreed. Things are really bad right now. But they've been bad before. We helped rebuild Germany after they started world wars.

  • What, all of us? I would suggest that Russia's proxy leaders threatened to invade both those places specifically to weaken US alliances and hurt NATO.

    So when did we become Russia? Better you should ask, should we become Russia, would we like it? We've only begun to experience the damage of it and I figure part of the plan is that once we notice and object to what's been done to us, it'll be too late.

    You are mad if you think we are not the target here. This is not about hurting Greenland, it's about hurting US and people elsewhere should take note because you are subject to the same tactics and the same influences.

  • > What allies?

    > You threatened to invade Canada and Greenland.

    > You surely don't think you're coming back from that?

    Trump threatened. Those were unserious remarks by an unserious person who's 80 years old. If that was all it takes to permanently demolish those alliances, they were never actually there.

    • No no, the remarks were pretty damn fucking serious.

      And the fact that the US could elect such an unserious and demented criminal, twice is proof enough that there is a lot to worry about. Who's to say who will be next? Or after that?

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    • It's the fact that he wasn't immediately removed from office that's the underlying problem.

    • That’s like claiming Iran didn’t ever threaten North Korea, USA etc but only their leaders. Trump is the guy Americans had choosen to decide their foreign policy. Just like Russians can’t claim they are innocent just because of what their leaders do Americans have even less excuse.

    • That's not how democracy works. You have responsibility and accountability. These people can and do real harm.