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Comment by ACCount37

14 hours ago

2 out of 3 for "bombed to shit". I wouldn't call that "working".

I'm not sure if Iran's regime has the staying power, but Hamas sure doesn't seem to be in a good shape lately.

Even if every single Hamas was killed - you have a whole population totally traumatized. That's extremely fertile ground for something like Hamas to pop up again. So, a lot of sufferring but Bibi and "Hamas" (or whatever) prospers.

  • Hamas has been killed. Again and again and again. But people keep joining this "Hamas" resistance group against Israel so the group never seems to go away. And do you know why they join? They join because Israel killed their whole families.

> but Hamas sure doesn't seem to be in a good shape lately.

And who do you see on track to displace Hamas? After years and years of conflict and being "bombed to shit", they're as entrenched as ever while their enemy declines much faster.

Israel is getting to a point where it has no friends left in the world, where the average European youth thinks nuking Israel and turning into a glass parking lot would probably be a net positive. Jews are starting to be broadly despised again thanks to Israeli policy, something that would have been unimaginable just a few years ago.

Hamas operatives lead shitty lives in the Gaza strip as they have for decades, but they certainly aren't losing control.

Over the course of a few years, Hamas managed to turn wearing a star of David in big EU cities into a dangerous political statement. And we're supposed to believe that they're not winning?

  • There are two actors and you're mixing up who is responsible for which outcome. I explained in more detail in another comment

    • There's no credit due for correctly reading your adversary?

      Obviously the Israelis could have just kept their mask on, but Hamas was clearly correct in their calculation that they wouldn't.

  • Your arguments are self-contradictory. You say force is great, but only for Hamas - not for Israel.

    A youth who thinks Israel should be genocided doesn’t care about genocide, so why hate Israel?

    The hate in Europe is driven primarily by an influx of people who were hating Jews anyway, and who naively think that the hatred won’t backfire on them. Once you start promoting racism it comes for everyone.

    • >The hate in Europe is driven primarily by an influx of people who were hating Jews anyway

      You are mistaken, the sentiments are shifting across the board.

      This is probably driven to a significant degree by the Israeli national policy of tying any criticism of Israel with antisemitism, and the broad acceptance of that policy by Jewish communities globally. Because of this implicit endorsement, it is not surprising that many would struggle to separate between the actions by taken by the state of Israel and those who call themselves Jews.

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