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Comment by jack_pp

11 hours ago

This framing local LLMs as free is stupid. Basically pay 100+ months worth of API costs up front isn't free in the slightest. And it will be slower than non-local, your hardware will be outdated in 12 months and probably won't be able to run SOTA at anywhere near non-local speed in max 20 months

Yeah, it glosses over a gigantic capital expenditure. It's sort of like saying that an open source modern CPU architecture allows you to build your own CPU "for free" (provided that you own and operate a fab).

True. But there are other meanings of "free". I.e. nobody can say "from now on you no longer have access to model X because you're an asshole"

  • Some obvious examples of why you'd want to spend the capital on this would be, for example, making some kind of autonomous system which needs to be periodically be offline, or you need complete confidentiality of what you're using the model for, etc.

    To be cost effective with inference providers, you have to find some way to be using it 24/7.

  • The ecosystem for inference is centralized around a few core projects, i.e. vLLM, sglang, and llamacpp.

    If they decided to collude, they could absolutely say "from now on you no longer have access to model X because you're an asshole"

    The commercial inference offering are also downstream of one of those 3 projects (or trt-LLM if they're nvidia). It would impact Ollama, and fireworks, together, and everyone else.

    Don't tempt fate.