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Comment by dataflow

12 hours ago

I still don't understand what that has to do with encryption. Are these two separate policy proposals, one for GPS tracking and one for encryption, that this person is supporting?

Think about why do governments want to ban encryption? Because they want to know everything about you all the time. Collecting information on someone such as their location is of the same order.

  • It may be of the same order, but it is a different thing. No one, not even techies like here on HN, are going to see his actions as valid.

    • He has to use a different method because obviously he does not have a backdoor into the prime minister's phone. The fact that "obviously wrong" invasive methods have to be used (now) to imitate something that the prime minister want to apply to every citizen (except himself and his buddies) in the future can be seen as part of the point.

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    • It’s not fundamentally different than indiscriminately scanning everyone’s private communication (what the Danish government is trying to accomplish on the EU level)

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  • > Think about why do governments want to ban encryption? Because they want to know everything about you all the time.

    Or, say, because they want a judicial warrant to be sufficient for obtaining someone's information without their consent?

    > Collecting information on someone such as their location is of the same order.

    Huh? This sounds crazy.

    • It's not that complicated. Minister wants to remove citizens privacy. Protester invades privacy of minister in response. On the one hand I agree that gps-tracking is not exactly the same as analyzing people's messages, on the other hand one can often infer whereabouts through messaging services indirectly or even directly such as when people share their gps location with one another (a feature that e.g. whatsapp has).

      Anyway, apparently this Peter Hummelgaard has said:

      "I indisputably believe that surveillance creates an increased sense of security ... and given that the prerequisite for freedom is security, yes, I believe that more surveillance equates to more freedom"

      so I think you will find it easier to understand these kinds of protest actions if you consider them in the context of privacy vs. surveillance more broadly conceived.

      (source for quote https://mastodon.social/@chatcontrol/115314954743042414 -> https://www.dr.dk/lyd/special-radio/prompt/prompt-2025/egois...)

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Encryption is used to remain private in ones comings and goings and communication.

It’s not the same as gps, but it’s similar. If you can decrypt someone’s communications, you can more easily determine their location.