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Comment by tristanj

18 hours ago

They're called 中转站 (transfer stations/proxies). They can be a bit tricky to find on your own, so I'd suggest asking your preferred AI to search in Mandarin for you. I linked a larger operator in the parent comment, or have a look at https://hvoy.ai/ which lists a ton. You can also find many on Funpay, which may be easier to use.

This is one seller I found, they're reselling "real Max 20x subscription accounts", at ~97% below official API prices https://funpay.com/en/lots/offer?id=70812310

Note that whoever you buy from will be able to read all your tokens, so don’t use it for anything confidential/financial.

> They can be a bit tricky to find on your own, so I'd suggest asking your preferred AI to search in Mandarin for you.

Random, but are the frontier AI providers like ChatGPT better at searching the Chinese internet now?

When I was in China a few months ago and asking AI for restaurant recommendations, all the US frontier providers were pretty useless, or plain out hallucinating, even if I specifically ask them to search Dianping (Yelp for China).

  • I'm not sure. I use Grok for most of my esoteric searches and it does quite well. I explicitly prompt it to search in the language most relevant to that query, and found it does quite well. I also tell it to respond back in English. Often, there is not enough information available in English about nice regional topics.

    I know ChatGPT had an issue where it only tried to search in English (unless prompted) and the answers were not great.

How did you even find these? Even in discussions about cheap AI I've never seen anyone mention this. Great find!

  • I learned about this from a friend who lives in China.

    I'm surprised these token resale services aren't talked about more often, they are common knowledge in China, and the discount to API pricing (90%) is genuinely cheap.