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Comment by wqaatwt

9 hours ago

We were talking specifically about inference and I don’t think there any indication that their gross margins on the API tokens (if not the personal subscriptions) are negative?

Obviously they have R&D and other fixed expenses that make the company itself highly unprofitable but that’s only semi-tangential.

No I mean Anthropic has only claimed a profitable quarter based on xAI giving them two months of free compute, and both Anthropic and OpenAI are counting discounted revenue as actual revenue. They haven't found a way to sell inference for less than it costs them yet, and when they tried earlier this quarter their customers bailed.

  • Well again.. you are mixing up inference costs and their other mostly fixed expenses (in addition to sales and marketing)

    Is there any indication that if they could sell X * N more tokens than now at the same (or even quite a bit lower) price they wouldn’t become profitable as a company?

    > They haven't found a way to sell inference for less than it costs them yet

    Based on what? I only see evidence to the contrary.