Comment by zamadatix
4 months ago
1.16x simple mean on XBOX 1.22x simple mean on Apple
Closer than I expected, but some products are quite the outliers. E.g. Apple TV is 1.54x. That's gotta hurt.
4 months ago
1.16x simple mean on XBOX 1.22x simple mean on Apple
Closer than I expected, but some products are quite the outliers. E.g. Apple TV is 1.54x. That's gotta hurt.
Apple TV is a little worrisome, surprised the A-series devices jumped so much. They're on older lines and have mostly been a way to recoup R&D for flagships. Theyre either subsidizing other products to soften the increase, or older process nodes are under serious demand suddenly.
Doesn't bode well for the industry. PlayStation and Xbox both switched to mostly-commodity hardware this gen and are years old, yet also facing the same price pressure apparently
Tim Cook stated Apple is eating some of the price increases. I'm guessing they chose not to with the Apple TV.
The price increase may be factoring in the next Apple TV hardware revision, allowing that to be released without price being the dominant story around it.
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Is this true? I was under the impression that Apple signs long term deals with companies and the reason they didn't have a price hike for so long is because they were still getting parts are the former price
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The Apple TV barely has any storage or memory, it’s already massively overpriced compared to any other set-top box.
its so much better though. android junk UI and TV OS are so bad I will happily pay the Apple TV price just to get the remote and not get a headache when I get home from work and want to watch TV. the product name is too poorly thought out though
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I think it’s the only set top box that doesn’t show ads or sell viewing data.
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This isn’t the 1st increase they do on these consoles.
Xbox has had two or three other price increases before this most recent one.
1.67x on the ethernet version! $150 -> $250.
Here is an alternative: put any Linux distro that packages Plasma Bigscreen on a old laptop or mini-PC. Add an HDMI-CEC for control with the TV's remote. It even comes with Ethernet!
It's a mess, how would you remotely start up your laptop ?
The plasma big screen is also not very well made, I don't know if you can even compare it to Android tv or apple tv.
And the last nail in the coffin is that you don't get apps on plasma big screen. I need my internet provider app to acees the tv channels, otherwise I'd have to pay even more, and it's not available on Linux of course.
No, really, it's not an alternative.
It’s an alternative, but for the majority not a good alternative (unless you go the OSMC Vero route). I have tried doing this ever since it’s been possible to play video back on a PC (and before that I used SGI’s, and Macs with external video solutions) and continue to try it with many devices and hardware configurations. An Apple TV is easier to maintain and the quality of output is great.
The only thing not so great with Apple TV are the solutions for local media playback, OSMC and a Vero V is a better solution for that.
For reference I do this both for fun and work professionally in video workflow and pipeline solutions for 25+ years.
If you were going to use a streaming service, say Netflix or Prime Video, do you still get 4K and HDR10 this way?
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A good opportunity to move away from this tier of locked-down garbage devices, which include, among other, consoles (Xbox, PlayStation), streaming boxes (Apple, Amazon, Google), phones with locked bootloaders (Apple, Samsung), Internet-of-Shit home appliances that depend on the "cloud" and non-free apps, and others.
Move to what?
Do I not have to buy RAM and an SSD if I opt for a Framework?
Your point is orthogonal to the fact that the price increases are at a level that affects ANY computing device.
Make your own RAM, n00b!
I am currently in projects using lots of open source hardware and SBCs and I would argue the price increases on those have been even worse (if they are available at all) because those companies are competing for the same components but without the buying power of Apple. It’s a bloodbath out there.
You can still get any of these devices for the price of 16 GB DDR5 or 32 GB DDR4 (which limits the choice and availability of CPUs). It's a terrible time to build freedom PCs.