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21 hours ago

People on average aren't very smart and will happily support programs objectively harmful to them and everyone else because the government and a nice lady from the breakfast TV says it's necessary to think of someone's else's children watching porn (this soundbite is gross. I don't understand how it's okay for the serious people to repeat it).

Of course it's accurate to say a lot of people aren't smart.

A lot of people also may or may not be smart but have limited knowledge of this area and limited time/effort to expend thinking about it.

I don't think you should rail against those things because they will always be true for every topic.

Instead, people who have understood the deeper implications of this, for instance the typical HN reader, need to connect with the average person, engage with rather than dismiss their child protection fears, while explaining the downsides.

Taking a high handed dismissive attitude will not help to shift public opinion.

  • But I'm expressing my opinion on HN, not for the general public?

    I thought that stating this, I believe, fact as a contributing factor in the creeping authoritarian climate would be understood without having to attach a handful of caveats and papers?

    (you're contradicting yourself)

Once again blaming the tv which barely anyone watches rather than the algorithmic feed in their pocket 24 hours a day.

It’s not 1980 any more.

  • Naah, "nice lady from the breakfast TV" is mostly[1] an allegory of the traditional media narrative, but you can't seriously deny the impact and importance of it?

    If you deny for example Murdoch-owned media impact on the society, or the extent of the damage for example BBC did in the UK to the human rights or the discourse, I'd suggest reading more :)

    [1] one TV programme I remember (I don't watch it): "Good Morning Britain is the UK's most talked about breakfast television show with a weekly audience reach of 4 million people." that's 10% of the age group 16-64 here, not too shabby-- and that's ONE tv.