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Comment by gruez

8 days ago

>GLM export controls incoming?

US imposing export restrictions on a model from China?

While unlikely , it is not without precedent , there are restrictions on ASML a Dutch company to sell EUV machines

  • That’s because the Department of Energy originally funded and contributed IP to the EUV Corp joint venture between several semiconductor companies (including ASML and Intel). Their ability to export control EUV was part of that original agreement that the entire technology is built on.

  • ASML complies as an ally, why would China comply?

    The weights are already available and downloaded, is it going to be a crime to have them, run them, make them available? Constitutional rights still exist (I hope)

    • > is it going to be a crime to have them, run them, make them available?

      Now you're getting it! Commerce will call it a munition and those harboring it as harboring illegal/foreign munitions.

      No business will take the hit, so they will quickly deplatform the models.

      No end user has the GPU capacity to use GLM 5.2 or similar models at full precision so the government will call the problem "mostly solved." But they might choose to "make examples" out of a few people using p2p software to download the weights if they choose to.

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    • That too has precedence , there is long history of controls of cryptographic algorithms up until the 90s. It wasn't abstract either, older greybeards would remember browsers like Netscape had two versions International and U.S. for this reason.

      If you classify AI as a weapon which seems to be the direction that we are all heading towards, they yes first amendment rights won't likely apply.

They can easily issue an order for any American company to stop hosting/serving the models. If the model was a threat to national security because of its capabilities then a lot of other countries would follow, including China. No nation will allow some vibe coder with a rogue AI to pose a threat to their systems.

The reason GLM-5.2 hasn't been banned is that despite these cherry picked use cases, GLM-5.2 isn't even close to Opus in all use cases. These vibe benchmarks are ran by companies that are not part of the cyber services offered by Anthropic and OpenAI where they can use the models without the safeguards and refusals so their actual cyber capabilities can be utilized.

These guys that wrote the article compared a gimped Opus to GLM-5.2, knew full well it's misleading, and got the clicks regardless. They don't have enough clout to be a part of something like Project Glasswing, GPT Cyber, etc.

How would that even work for an open-weight model?

  • Go after the hosts, 99% of people won't be able to run this locally even if they wanted to.