Comment by pprotas
11 hours ago
Are you arguing that Holocaust/Nazi jokes should be accepted socially, as long as you only deliver them to people who respond positively to Holocaust/Nazi jokes?
11 hours ago
Are you arguing that Holocaust/Nazi jokes should be accepted socially, as long as you only deliver them to people who respond positively to Holocaust/Nazi jokes?
If you're telling dirty jokes, there are many flavors and those ive' mentioned are not special.
This is example. There are _bad_/_hard_/_dark_ jokes about women, grandmas, blacks, whites, east-asia. They have place - unless you're harming someone they are _ok_ for situation.
But only for situation. When recorded, stored and reheard years after it's not longer that situation. By recording, you're basically extending every private situation to infinity.
People in private situation, in close groups behave in ways they consider private - they cross boundaries, they "challenge" authorities/boundaries and it's ok.
It's not ok to take this freedom by assuming you can't say anything controversial in any setting.
The world is not black and white and simple. Things could be taken out of context, and people tend to project.
People have got into trouble for having retold a controversial joke that they had heard, when the reason they retold had been because they themselves had been upset about it.
I too don't think that holocaust jokes should be accepted, but sometimes people say things because they don't know better at the time. There have been cases of people retelling "dog whistles" without having understood their contextual meaning for certain groups. I've even seen politicians use the phrase "Works sets you free" without understanding why it is inappropriate. People learn and change, but old posts can linger on the Internet for a long time.