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Comment by ekianjo

21 hours ago

gemma is also worse for tool calling. not just coding

That is because they use a different tool calling format than most other models. Unsloth quants fix this in their Gemma releases.

  • I've never been able to fix the tool calling issues. Running unsloth versions with llama.cpp, constant issues. Have tried many forum fixes, including lots of fixed chat templates, to no avail. It's mostly the edit call that breaks, which often results in "let me just rewrite the whole file from context".

  • Can you say a bit more about this? The bad tool calling has made me give up on using Gemma for my Hermes and a personal recipe site. I have only downloaded from Ollama.